MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh

Sovay Berriman

The MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) podcast began as part of a 4 year practice-as-research multi-platform artwork of the same name. This artwork used sculpture and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity and its relationship with heritage, land, and extraction industries - including tourism and mining.  The MESKLA podcast series now continues to consider the above along with issues of authenticity, fractured culture, colonialism, the links between indigenous language, intangible and living cultural heritage and identity, and where and how art takes part in this conversation, or makes space for it. The series uses Kernow (Cornwall) as a key site and reference point for its content. These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn. Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening   Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   The first iteration of MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh was supported using public funding by the National Lottery through Arts Council England. Funding was also gratefully received from Redruth Unlimited, with further generous support which helped to realise the project given by Liam Jolly of Auction House, Ellie Allen of Splann, Jowdy Davey & Lowender Peran, Falmouth University Falmouth Campus, Kresen Kernow, Kowethas an Yeth Kernewek, Gorsedh Kernow, Cornwall Neighbourhoods for Change, Kath Buckler, Alice Mahoney & CMR, ButCH/*, and the Konsel Kernow Cornish Language Office. #mesklabrewyondrudh #mesklacornishculture #mesklakernow #Cornwall #indigenouslanuages #minorityculture #extractionindustries #celticnations #kernewek #kernow #class #decolonisation

  1. Apr 13

    Making Friends - FLAMM x Counterpoints Arts Climate Displacement Network Exchange Spring Equinox 2026

    In this, another special FLAMM episode of the MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh podcast, Sovay is joined by artists and creative producers who took part in an exchange project between FLAMM and Counterpoints Arts Climate Displacement Network over the first few months of 2026.   You can learn more about the exchange, which Sovay facilitated here > https://counterpoints.org.uk/event/flamm-x-counterpoints-dislocation-artists-exchange/. The exchange project pairings are: Katie Etheridge and Boseda Olawoye Rachael Jones and Anca Dimofte Alice Mahoney and Kaajal Modi   Each participant shared links of the other artworks and projects which they mention, you can find those links below. Further details and examples of the work the participants shared will be available in a forthcoming FLAMM publication. Follow FLAMM on social media to find out more, or sign up to my newsletter here > https://sovayberriman.co.uk/SUBSCRIBE   You can find a PDF transcript of the podcast HERE!   Anca Dimfote http://www.ancadimofte.com/ https://www.danaolarescu.com/about   Katie Etheridge https://small-acts.co.uk/ Flamm Commission reference to Re:Rooted: https://small-acts.co.uk/projects/rerooted/ https://kittyhillier.co.uk/about-2/ KBSK Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/KBSKperformingARTS/ Small Acts philosophy: Everyone is the expert of their own lives https://www.instagram.com/p/DVOrpdciHzo/?img_index=1   Rachael Jones https://www.rjonesfilms.com https://bodminkeep.org.uk   Alice Mahoney www.alicemahoney.com Solid Sound Liquid Light (Two Queens show in Leicester) https://www.leilagalloway.net https://www.naomifrears.com   Kaajal Modi https://kaajalmodi.com Soft Touch Arts (collaborator organisation) Interweaving threads of climate justice (Eden Project event) Songs of the Water (Counterpoints commission)   Boseda Olawoye https://www.bosedaolawoye.com/ https://www.bosedaolawoye.com/copy-of-2016-2017 https://www.churchillfellowship.org/ideas-experts/ideas-library/for-us/ https://www.altspacechicago.com   MESKLA, a podcast series that I began in 2022 as part of MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh, considers issues of authenticity, fractured culture, colonialism, the links between indigenous language, intangible and living cultural heritage and identity, and where and how art takes part in this conversation, or makes space for it. The series uses Kernow (Cornwall) as a key site and reference point for its content. These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn. Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening   Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.

    1h 5m
  2. 12/18/2022

    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh #10 A Conversation About Place, Art & Cultural Capital with Amanprit Sandhu

    For this tenth podcast, and the last in this MESKLA series, I am joined by Amanprit Sandhu.   Amanprit is a London based curator and educator with a focus on expanded exhibition practices, pedagogy and widening participation in the arts and arts education,  and collaborative approaches to working.  She is currently working as a Senior Lecturer on the Fine Art programme at Chelsea College of Arts, London.   Amanprit and I discuss the terms 'place-making', 'cultural capital' and 'social mobility' - what do they mean exactly, and for whom? We consider art’s role and relationship with these terms, and with the communities and land they are used in connection to.  Through the conversation we consider personal senses of responsibility, and how thinking and behaviours can begin to shift.   We refer to this text by Vanessa Watts - Indigenous Place-Thought and Agency Amongst Humans and Non Humans (First Woman and Sky Woman Go On a European World Tour!) Which Stephanie Pratt of Episode #4 introduced us to.    We join the conversation with an Amanprit introducing us to her work and research.    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (tr. Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) is a multi-platform project using sculpture-making and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity. To find out more please visit www.sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Brewyon-Drudh. Through workshops, podcasts, a symposium and an exhibition the project invites people to share their experiences of identity and Cornwall, and their views on Cornish culture and its relationship to land, language, heritage, tourism, the Cornish diaspora and much more.    These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn.   Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening     Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   Resources: For a full list of resources and references for the project please visit https://sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Resources     http://superslowway.org.uk https://www.creativefolkestone.org.uk/folkestone-triennial/ https://www.biennial.com https://www.ricklowe.com/projects.html https://commonplace.persona.co/About https://www.heartofglass.org.uk https://art.tfl.gov.uk/projects/televox/?numPostamp;main_select=all&action=search_loop_handler https://www.biennial.com/2012/exhibition/locations/homebaked https://www.banffcentre.ca/indigenous-leadership?gclid=Cj0KCQiAgribBhDkARIsAASA5bujv6A9c17lVbk8xozYi1B1zkO-KPwQESf7lUOsaIKtXYoac-KXMWkaAmIkEALw_wcB

    1h 12m
  3. 12/12/2022

    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh #9 A Conversation About Fractured Culture and the Power of Stories with Angeline Morrison

    For this ninth podcast, I visit Cornwall based songwriter vocalist, choir leader, researcher and writer Angeline Morrison for a conversation at her home, with a small intervention from her cat, Ted. Angeline is actively concerned with raising awareness about the hidden historic black presence in the UK. And has recently released her acclaimed album, The Sorrow Songs, Folk Songs of Black British Experience on Topic Records. We join the conversation with Angeline about to tell us about her research for this album.   MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (tr. Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) is a multi-platform project using sculpture-making and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity. To find out more please visit www.sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Brewyon-Drudh. Through workshops, podcasts, a symposium and an exhibition the project invites people to share their experiences of identity and Cornwall, and their views on Cornish culture and its relationship to land, language, heritage, tourism, the Cornish diaspora and much more.    These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn.   Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening     Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   Resources: For a full list of resources and references for the project please visit https://sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Resources   https://museumofcornishlife.co.uk/2021/03/09/under-the-eves-evaristos-epitaph/ https://www.topicrecords.co.uk/2022/08/angeline-morrison-the-sorrow-songs-folk-songs-of-black-british-experience/ https://www.birchtreechoir.com https://www.bghuk.com https://cornwallartists.org/cornwall-artists/john-moody http://remikapo.org/evaristo-muchovela/

    1h 5m
  4. 12/04/2022

    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh #8 - A Conversation About Cornish Life & Lifestyle Cornwall, with Joanie Willett & Natasha Carthew

    For this eighth podcast I invited Dr Joanie Willett to talk about lifestyle culture and socio-economic situations in Cornwall, Joanie in turn invited Natasha Carthew to join her in this conversation.    Natasha Carthew is a working-class writer from Cornwall. Her new book Undercurrent: A Cornish Memoir of Poverty, Nature and Resilience, is a powerful exploration of rural poverty and a story of hope, beauty, and fierce resilience. Undercurrent publishes with Coronet/Hodder & Stoughton in April 2023.   Natasha is well known for writing on Socioeconomic issues and has written extensively on the subject of how authentic working-class voices are represented in literature. She is Founder and Artistic Director of The Working Class Writers Festival and The Nature Writing Prize for Working Class Writers in association with Octopus/Hachette.     Joanie is a senior lecturer in Politics with the University of Exeter, and Co-Director of the Institute of Cornish Studies. Joanie’s research about social and economic development in Cornwall is a deeply personal topic for her, beginning with an awareness that many of her contemporaries felt that there was little future in Cornwall for their children.   MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (tr. Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) is a multi-platform project using sculpture-making and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity. To find out more please visit www.sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Brewyon-Drudh. Through workshops, podcasts, a symposium and an exhibition the project invites people to share their experiences of identity and Cornwall, and their views on Cornish culture and its relationship to land, language, heritage, tourism, the Cornish diaspora and much more.    These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn. Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening     Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   Resources: For a full list of resources and references for the project please visit https://sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Resources   https://www.gwenno.info https://ncornbookfest.org https://www.waterstones.com/book/undercurrent/natasha-carthew/9781399706476 http://history.exeter.ac.uk/research/centres/ics/ https://www.bristolideas.co.uk/projects/class/ https://www.trusselltrust.org https://www.jrf.org.uk https://queerkernow.co.uk https://cornwallpride.org https://www.intercomtrust.org.uk https://makerheights.co.uk https://www.thepublishingpost.com/post/the-new-nature-writing-prize-for-working-class-writers

    1h 9m
  5. 11/27/2022

    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh #7 - A Conversation About Art Working & Colonial Legacies, with Association of Unknown Shores

    In this seventh podcast I am joined by artists Kayle Brandon and Angela Piccini of Association of Unknown Shores. Association of Unknown Shores, formed in 2018, is an interdisciplinary social practice art project and platform for the research, production and commissioning of art and cultural works. The project explores the hidden nature of persistent material and remembered traces of the enforced cultural exchange between what we now know as the UK and Canada. Working with the legacies of Martin Frobisher’s 16th-century attempt to colonise Nunavut. A collective of disaporic artists, Association of Unknown Shores turns the unknown back on itself to critique the worn colonial ‘discovery’ trope.   MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (tr. Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) is a multi-platform project using sculpture-making and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity. To find out more please visit www.sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Brewyon-Drudh. Through workshops, podcasts, a symposium and an exhibition the project invites people to share their experiences of identity and Cornwall, and their views on Cornish culture and its relationship to land, language, heritage, tourism, the Cornish diaspora and much more.    These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn. Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening     Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   Resources: For a full list of resources and references for the project please visit https://sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Resources   Avon Stories - Avon Canoe Pilot - Sarah Connolly talks with Heath Bunting & Kayle Brandon for her podcast ‘White liar and the known shore’ - Jaimie Griffiths & Laakkuluk Williamson Bathory Cleo Lake Clearwell Caves Janet-Pitsiulaaq-Brewster https://www.inuitartfoundation.org/profiles/artist/Janet-Pitsiulaaq-Brewsterhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/06/woman-free-miner Elaine Morman - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-gloucestershire-45697969https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monmouth_cap Alison Bain Norah Kennedy

    1h 10m
  6. 11/18/2022

    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh #6 - A Conversation about Tourism, Commodification & Class

    In this sixth podcast, I'm joined by Dave Beech, an artist and writer from a working class background. We talk about tourism, class and colonial gaze; how culture and lifestyle is commodified and purchased, and the potential impacts of this.   Dave is reader in art and Marxism at University Arts London, and is author of the books Art and Labour (Brill 2020), Art and Postcapitalism (Pluto 2019) and Art and Value (Brill 2015). Beech worked in the collective Freee (with Andy Hewitt and Mel Jordan) between 2004 and 2018. He has recently had exhibitions as a solo artist in UNO gallery, New Orleans, Loft 8 gallery, Vienna and Exeter Phoenix.   MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (tr. Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) is a multi-platform project using sculpture-making and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity. To find out more please visit www.sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Brewyon-Drudh. Through workshops, podcasts, a symposium and an exhibition the project invites people to share their experiences of identity and Cornwall, and their views on Cornish culture and its relationship to land, language, heritage, tourism, the Cornish diaspora and much more.    These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn.   Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening     Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   Resources: For a full list of resources and references for the project please visit https://sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Resources   Emily Thomas - The Meaning of Travel https://philosophynow.org/issues/140/The_Meaning_of_Travel_by_Emily_Thomas Michael John Law - A World Away Nanook of the North - Wikipedia Richard Hoggart - The Uses of Literacy Alain Badiou - Theory of Ethics

    1h 5m
  7. 11/11/2022

    MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh #5 A Conversation with Performers

    In this fifth podcast  I'm joined by Ellie Allen, caller for ceilidh band Splann. Becky Bordeaux actress, performer and production assistant with Rogue Otherworld and Luke Passey otherwise known as Passman, one half of Hedluv + Passman. We talk about Redruth, living working and growing up in Kernow, nightlife housing and the cost of living, community and the intangible nature of local knowledge; tourism, stereotypes and TV; gentrification, the diaspora and responsibilities of being contemporary Cornish performers.   MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (tr. Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) is a multi-platform project using sculpture-making and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity. To find out more please visit www.sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Brewyon-Drudh. Through workshops, podcasts, a symposium and an exhibition the project invites people to share their experiences of identity and Cornwall, and their views on Cornish culture and its relationship to land, language, heritage, tourism, the Cornish diaspora and much more.    These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn.   Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening     Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   Resources: For a full list of resources and references for the project please visit https://sovayberriman.co.uk/MESKLA-Resources     https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pn8mz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Laws Methodism in Cornwall - https://www.cornwalls.co.uk/history/people/john_wesley.htm https://www.panmacmillan.com/blogs/fiction/poldark-books-in-order https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000pb6w

    1h 3m

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The MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh (Mussel Gathering | Precious Fragments) podcast began as part of a 4 year practice-as-research multi-platform artwork of the same name. This artwork used sculpture and conversation to explore contemporary Cornish cultural identity and its relationship with heritage, land, and extraction industries - including tourism and mining.  The MESKLA podcast series now continues to consider the above along with issues of authenticity, fractured culture, colonialism, the links between indigenous language, intangible and living cultural heritage and identity, and where and how art takes part in this conversation, or makes space for it. The series uses Kernow (Cornwall) as a key site and reference point for its content. These podcasts record conversations between me, Sovay Berriman, and guests whose research or lived experienced touches on the project themes. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own. All conversations are carried out with a spirit of generosity and openness, creating space for the discussions to twist and turn. Govenek a'm beus hwi dhe omlowenhe goslowes orto/ I hope you enjoy listening   Please note: These podcasts were recorded in different locations and with a range of equipment. As such the sound quality varies and at times external factors are more present than ideal in the recordings.   The first iteration of MESKLA | Brewyon Drudh was supported using public funding by the National Lottery through Arts Council England. Funding was also gratefully received from Redruth Unlimited, with further generous support which helped to realise the project given by Liam Jolly of Auction House, Ellie Allen of Splann, Jowdy Davey & Lowender Peran, Falmouth University Falmouth Campus, Kresen Kernow, Kowethas an Yeth Kernewek, Gorsedh Kernow, Cornwall Neighbourhoods for Change, Kath Buckler, Alice Mahoney & CMR, ButCH/*, and the Konsel Kernow Cornish Language Office. #mesklabrewyondrudh #mesklacornishculture #mesklakernow #Cornwall #indigenouslanuages #minorityculture #extractionindustries #celticnations #kernewek #kernow #class #decolonisation